It's late at night, and I'm thinking a lot, so here goes...
I realise that when it comes to meeting girls, so far, my first reaction when I meet someone that I instantly like
is to rationalize what I think is good about them, what I think attracts me to them. I coat them with this glow of
sweetness that I then play in my mind. This person then becomes an attraction that I long for. In my mind, I am
constantly seeking reassurances that I like this person because of qualities that I might be fantasizing about in
a person. So many times, it has turned out, this person is totally not what I thought she is. To be true to myself
I also set to myself that I have to somehow get to conquer this person's heart. It's all an unconscious process. I
think she could be that one person, but in all fairness, I have to agree in the end that it was just infatuation.
Which then takes me to the point where I think to myself that I get bored - again rationalising. It turns out I am
really bored because this person did not fulfil what we thought of them initially - wrongly.
So, the bottomline is, this sucks! How do I eventually meet someone that I could end up liking forever if instead
of how I have gone about things so far, I tell myself I don't want to hurt her. I have done that before, but once
again it was probably a piece of rationalizing - she probably did n't do enough to grab my interest and I just
moved on. Our psyche and society's pressures and conditioning too often bring us to set well-defined criteria
about what a partner should be - common interests, background, etc... But so far, I have not met someone
with a passion for something that is a total stranger to me - that something that is. Now, that could be a
powerful attraction to me I think.To somehow get into someone's else's passion instead of the other way round...
It was probably some random, egotistic rambling from a bored gemini who is busy rationalising matters of the
heart right now. If you feel like contributing some ranting, please feel free to do so, especially if you have been
either in my shoes, or at the receiving end of a gemini like me...
Cheers..
I realise that when it comes to meeting girls, so far, my first reaction when I meet someone that I instantly like
is to rationalize what I think is good about them, what I think attracts me to them. I coat them with this glow of
sweetness that I then play in my mind. This person then becomes an attraction that I long for. In my mind, I am
constantly seeking reassurances that I like this person because of qualities that I might be fantasizing about in
a person. So many times, it has turned out, this person is totally not what I thought she is. To be true to myself
I also set to myself that I have to somehow get to conquer this person's heart. It's all an unconscious process. I
think she could be that one person, but in all fairness, I have to agree in the end that it was just infatuation.
Which then takes me to the point where I think to myself that I get bored - again rationalising. It turns out I am
really bored because this person did not fulfil what we thought of them initially - wrongly.
So, the bottomline is, this sucks! How do I eventually meet someone that I could end up liking forever if instead
of how I have gone about things so far, I tell myself I don't want to hurt her. I have done that before, but once
again it was probably a piece of rationalizing - she probably did n't do enough to grab my interest and I just
moved on. Our psyche and society's pressures and conditioning too often bring us to set well-defined criteria
about what a partner should be - common interests, background, etc... But so far, I have not met someone
with a passion for something that is a total stranger to me - that something that is. Now, that could be a
powerful attraction to me I think.To somehow get into someone's else's passion instead of the other way round...
It was probably some random, egotistic rambling from a bored gemini who is busy rationalising matters of the
heart right now. If you feel like contributing some ranting, please feel free to do so, especially if you have been
either in my shoes, or at the receiving end of a gemini like me...
Cheers..
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Mon, October 23, 2006 - 11:38 AMHi Fardin
We Geminis (I'm a Gemini moon, Sag sun), think far too much, we try to get to the bottom of every problem, the whys & whats of every person we meet, (especially those we think we are in love with), why do they do this, why do they do that, what makes them tick.....
I think we sometimes see them as a challenge, instead of sitting back & letting be what will be, we have to confront, debate & rationalise their behaviour, our behaviour, why we like them & why they like us.
Until in the end we get fed up & bored of going over the same old topic (them & us) that we fall out of love with them, (if we were ever there in the first place) & we want to move on to new pastures.
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Sat, October 28, 2006 - 11:25 AMGemini Moons way of romance. Yes everyone when 1st meeting a posible mate builds a fantacy about them. Thats nature putting us together. It's even called the fantacy stage, aprox 5 months. Relationships work out when there is enough in common in this fatacy world when it's worked into something shared. IMO most of any relationship is 90% a buisness partnership sort of. It's the 10% of shared fantacy that makes for happyness. I say use the Gemini Moon for all the 90% part, and let other parts of yourself enjoy the 10%. Also The idea of gemini is that it is a twin, w/ another twin out there somewere, that it is forever looking for..
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 8:59 PMRight now I'm personally trying to stay far away from relationships. I've realized that I honestly don't really like them all that much. What I do enjoy is the initial attraction and the obtaining of a new person's affections. Very rarely do I stay interested.
I'm definitely no stranger to rationalizing when it comes to love. I'm also no stranger to being completely unaware of how I *really feel* about someone I've entered into a relationship with. It's hard. . . especially having moon opposition uranus. I'm constantly up and down when it comes to loving someone. I can honestly be completely in love with someone one day (sometimes even one hour) and then completely neutral about the same person even though he / she hasn't done a single thing to change my mind! I think about things that I don't like in that person and I focus on it. . . I guess that's why I'm so fickle when it comes to love. Really, once something has been established, I'm completely faithful and devoted to that person (at the end of the day). I feel like my moon creates the more superficial connection with people I've met and would consider dating or whatever. . . My venus is what *really* connects me to people I love. It's funny. . . I can separate the two so easily because I've got a flighty / fickle gemini moon that represents my normally fleeting emotions and a stable venus in taurus that really allows me to attach myself to people I truly care about (oftentimes too long).
I've learned that the only people that I really get along with (astrologically speaking) are air moons and earth venuses. These people just understand me better than a water moon or air venus might.
I really enjoy having a gemini moon for the most part. . . I'm an extremely animated, lively person who loves talking and being social, but when it comes to relationships, I've learned that I'm (probably) never going to be "successful" in this area of my life. (I also have saturn in the 7th house. . . that probably has something do with this sentiment as well). -
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Mon, October 30, 2006 - 1:32 AMQuite frankly, I'm not too well-versed in the astrological aspect of things. Actually I'm a Gemini-Sun, Taurus-Moon, Venus-Gemini. But I thought I might find echoes in this tribe, which it seems I am. I hear you very much about being in a relationship and all that. When out of it, I tend to think about how nice it would be, and how nice other couples seem to be enjoying each other's company. On the other hand, when having dated someone for a while, I find myself starting to wonder what's the best way to get out. At other times, I look at the security people in stable relationships seem to find in each other, and I tell myself there is no way I can ever be that settled and contented.
I think it boils down to the degree of excitement that lingers on when meeting someone new. The people I have dated so far (other signs) tend to look for some degree of stability and security after a while, which is just about the time when alarm bells start to ring for me. And I have n't really met someone who really understands me and the issues that keep me awake at night, like spiritual awakening, finding our path and fulfilment in life and that sort of thing. On the other hand, it is not difficult at all for me to understand people who need a listening ear, and to offer any form of advice whenever appropriate. So, beyond relationship and stuff, I have actually given up and finding people that really understand me.
I would be curious however to actually date a gemini. Somehow, the opportunity never really presented itself.
On a separate note, do you sometimes feel, being the lively and animated person that you are that after being around people for a while, that you feel drained of energy and need to spend time alone on your own to sort of "recuperate"?
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Tue, October 31, 2006 - 2:03 AM"do you sometimes feel, being the lively and animated person that you are that after being around people for a while, that you feel drained of energy and need to spend time alone on your own to sort of "recuperate"? "
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Sat, November 18, 2006 - 5:34 AM"do you sometimes feel, being the lively and animated person that you are that after being around people for a while, that you feel drained of energy and need to spend time alone on your own to sort of "recuperate"? "
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Tue, November 21, 2006 - 5:57 AMme, too!
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Wed, November 1, 2006 - 6:17 PM"On a separate note, do you sometimes feel, being the lively and animated person that you are that after being around people for a while, that you feel drained of energy and need to spend time alone on your own to sort of "recuperate"? "
Yes.
I hear you about wanting a relationship when you're not in one and wanting to be single once you're in one. I try to remind myself that no matter how much I may like a new person I've met, it's most likely not going to last very long. I let myself flirt and make friends but remind myself that relationships generally don't work for me. Most of the time I really don't mind being single. -
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Thu, November 2, 2006 - 8:22 AMI used to have the same perspective - relationship is not my cup of tea. It went from: I should meet someone to share something stable (gemini? stable? are you kidding?) with to: I still want to have some fun to: I'll think about if ever someone gives me reason to think about it to: let's just get on with life and forget about the whole relationship thingie. It was just a conspiracy wrecked by society to ensure I play my part in the perpetuation of the human race. That last part was a half-joke but I am more focused on the things I really like doing, exploring the subconscious (it has been fascinating) and doing some self-experimentation in paradigm shifts.
I do realise this thread has diverged quite a bit. But ah well...
Fardin.
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Thu, December 14, 2006 - 8:43 AMI always need time to be alone. I'm on that phase right now. Of course it has to do with my sun being aquarius and my scorpio rising... but my gemini moon helps it along too.
I kick myself in the ass about this whole relationship thing. I'm single but want to be in one... then I'm in one... and I want to be single.
relationships can teach you many things about yourself as well as others. I idealize love to an extent... and idealize a person I just met... then it turns out to be completely not what I wanted.
I feel you april.... I am the same. I also have uranus in oppisition to my moon. My uranus is also in my first house. On top of that I have mars in my 12th and scorpio. It also conj saturn in my 12th. Both of these including my ascendant square my sun. Also I have a soft aspect of saturn towards my venus which is in capricorn.
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Tue, December 19, 2006 - 11:44 PM"I'm single but want to be in one... then I'm in one... and I want to be single."
I would attribute this to our Sag descendent -- which means it is sorta endemic to Gem mooners.
I am like that, too... but I have been with my partner for coming on 8 years. My Saturn Return has forced me to stop thinking about who I was and to get interested in who I am NOW.
Which is hard... because I find myself so aware of what a difference being single is like.
(le sigh)
I am not like you and April... and I have Nep opp my moon so...
Perhaps the function of Uranus here is to oppose anything that seems restrictive on your freedom to be. My suggestion is to look for someone who does not infringe upon your sense of personal freedom.
... yeah, those people exist.
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Wed, December 20, 2006 - 3:31 PMtaurus is on my descendent... I'm a scorpio rising.
"Perhaps the function of Uranus here is to oppose anything that seems restrictive on your freedom to be. My suggestion is to look for someone who does not infringe upon your sense of personal freedom."
that is exactly what I need. Uranus is in sag for me... so that helps it along. I found myself when I was younger going against things for no reason. Just for fuck sake. I did that in relationships too. Also uranus opposing my moon makes my emotions change like nothing. Like you one second... can't stand you the next. Aquarius helps this out too. I dunno there is a lot more going on. I get bored very very easily. I dunno... I'm alittle strange.
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Fri, August 17, 2007 - 6:04 PMim a taurus sun, gemini moon, and leo rising. and this conversation is just killing me cause its so dead on! And with that being said, my gemini moon drives me crazy! Oh, and my venus is in gemini too .... needless to say, ive never had a serious boyfriend (6 months at the most and i was definitly not committed) i just date around like it appears you all do too. its because im too picky and id much rather be a tease. flirting with the guys because i like a chase .. but when i finally can "get them", i dont want them anymore. its so annoying!
i never understood what was "wrong" with me for the longest time, and then i realized it was my annoying venus in gemini / gemini moon. haha. [well i kinda like moon gemini cause it does make me fun to be around i suppose]
Oh and i 100% relate to this as well --->
("On a separate note, do you sometimes feel, being the lively and animated person that you are that after being around people for a while, that you feel drained of energy and need to spend time alone on your own to sort of "recuperate"? ")
Definitly yes. i enjoy driving places by myself and listening to music so i can think and chill out.
my gem moon also makes me moody ... i can be real sweet and then really bitter two minutes later. AND, ive noticed that the way my mind thinks early when i first wake up is different from how it was during the day/at night... is anyone else like this? for example, ill go to bed thinking about all these things i want to do, like plans for tomorrow, and ill wake up and think "those were stupid ideas, why did i want to do that?" ahhh! why cant my twins get along so i can get some freakin peace !?!
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Re: Love and rationalising - a gemini perspective.
Sat, August 25, 2007 - 8:32 AMyou really didn't give the person a chance.you jumped out way too quick.
people won't always be what you conjured up in your head and that's ok.
put most of your thoughts and work into each individual situation that occurs with you and that person...not the whole picture.
step back and allow things to actually start...then work from within.
each instance needs thought and has details to look into.you have to learn how to seperate things and pace yourself.
